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More Protestants Find a Home in the Orthodox Antioch Church

Some are concerned about the occasional exit of parishioners and even pastors from Lutheranism to Orthodoxy. While on vicarage, a "dialogue" was held in Detroit, albeit all Orthodox speakers (some former Lutherans.) Take this as a word of caution that we ought not jettison our tradition and be ahistorical like most of protestantism. We need not leave for the East to have a rich and long-standing tradition. On Religion - More Protestants Find a Home in the Orthodox Antioch Church - NYTimes.com

Cal Oren was threading his way through the Santa Cruz Mountains of California early one evening in 1993, driving his wife, brother and three tired children back from a day of hiking amid the redwoods. As their car neared the town of Ben Lomond, Mr. Oren said, his brother pointed to a church on the roadside and said: “I’ve been inside this. It’s really neat.” So Mr. Oren pulled to a stop, and as the children stayed in the car, the grown-ups gingerly padded into the sanctuary of Saints Peter and Paul Antiochian Orthodox Church. A lifelong Presbyterian, Mr. Oren knew virtually nothing about the Antiochians or, for that matter, Orthodox Christianity in general. He had always associated Ben Lomond with hippies, geodesic domes and marijuana fields. As he entered, a vespers service was under way. Maybe two dozen worshipers stood, chanting psalms and hymns. Incense filled the dark air. Icons of apostles and saints hung on the walls. The ancientness and austerity stood at a time-warp remove from the evangelical circles in which Mr. Oren traveled, so modern, extroverted and assertively relevant. “This was a Christianity I had never encountered before,” said Mr. Oren, 55, a marketing consultant in commercial construction. “I was frozen in my tracks. I felt like I was in the actual presence of God, almost as if I was in heaven. And I’m not the kind of person who gets all woo-hoo.”

Oct 03, 2009
Robert Talbert said...
I like that term, "assertively relevant". That fits evangelicalism perfectly. And it seems like the more churches assert their relevance, the less able or likely they are to provide a real answer to the greatest problems of human life -- and the more likely they are to being merely equivalent to Oprah.

Lutheranism seems to be the last Protestant outpost of historical, *truly* relevant worship. If we jettison that to just try to be like everybody else, I am not sure what I'll do.
Oct 03, 2009
dizziness said...
I agree. The problem with relevance as the primary criteria for church practice is that it is horizontal (man-man) in orientation. Liturgy properly speaking is God serving man. The only relevant thing is God forgiving and restoring us to himself in Jesus Christ.
Oct 03, 2009
Grace Gillespie said...
Yes, worship should be different from everywhere else.
Oct 03, 2009
Christopher Gillespie said...
In reading one of the leading Orthodox theologians in America, he suggests that worship isn't different from everywhere else but everywhere else (especially Christians) are denying who they are. The gist of his argument is that church practice (Christian identity) guides theology. This is radically different than the western church, whose practice is guided by their confession.